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Old 11-27-2012   #286
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Same here, I still think Holmgren is a possibility.
I do too. Payton's a dream, a nice one. But at the end of the day, I think he just gets a bigger contract from NO.

Depending on how the team finishes these last few games, Holmgren would be the one guy I see Jerry going after.

Jerry's got a business to run and he can't fill seats with 7-9.

He's loyal to his friends but not when it starts affecting his organization's 'reputation.'

A lot of die-hard fans believe in the head coach, and a lot of don't. But I wonder what the casual fan thinks of these losing seasons? And I'm sure Jerry wonders as well.

Certainly, booing everytime the HC or GM is on the screen is an indication that the people aren't happy.
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With the news coming out today about Jason getting a REAL offensive coordinator, all this new coach rumors are a pipe dream. Sad to hear but it more then likely true. Great job Jerry. Love what you've done with the team

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Old 11-27-2012   #288
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With the news coming out today about Jason getting a REAL offensive coordinator, all this new coach rumors are a pipe dream.
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Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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With the news coming out today about Jason getting a REAL offensive coordinator, all this new coach rumors are a pipe dream. Sad to hear but it more then likely true. Great job Jerry. Love what you've done with the team
What news is that? I guess I have not heard.
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Old 11-27-2012   #291
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Jason Garrett is too much of an egoist to admit that his system sucks and isnt working.
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??? Maybe this is what he's talking about...

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowbo...und-head-coach

This doesn't say anything to me though. If anything, just Jerry saying 'he needs an OC but he doesn't need one'
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I do too. Payton's a dream, a nice one. But at the end of the day, I think he just gets a bigger contract from NO.

Depending on how the team finishes these last few games, Holmgren would be the one guy I see Jerry going after.

Jerry's got a business to run and he can't fill seats with 7-9.

He's loyal to his friends but not when it starts affecting his organization's 'reputation.'

A lot of die-hard fans believe in the head coach, and a lot of don't. But I wonder what the casual fan thinks of these losing seasons? And I'm sure Jerry wonders as well.

Certainly, booing everytime the HC or GM is on the screen is an indication that the people aren't happy.


Jerrah could care less what I have to say but I will say this:

Coming from an OG Saints fan (I was at the first game in 67).

The Cowboys have always been the class of the NFC and is a cash cow for the NFC.

From way back from when they were the Dallas Texans to the Tom Landry, Meredith, Staubach and Aikman days the rest of the NFL was always jealous of the Cowboys because of one thing. They just won. Your Super Bowls attest to that.

Plus they have the best looking cheerleaders in the entire NFL (Texas girls are the best) and kick *** uniforms. The Cowboys were just cool.

I used to look forward to Don Meredith every Monday starting in 1970 when the MNF came on. Like it or not the country always had a taste of the Cowboys. He was knowledgeable and his banter with Cosell made the show. Gifford was the straight man in this comedy act. MNF has never been the same since.

What JJ needs to remind himself of is that the Cowboys had a long standing reputation before he ever showed up.

But what Jerrah is doing now isn't working. JJ is a good business man but his EGO won't let him do what he in his heart knows that he needs to do. Step away and let the football people handle it.

Dallas will get another Super Bowl before Houston ever will because you have a nicer stadium despite that icy debacle of a couple of years ago.

As much as I love Sean Payton I would be dissapointed but not upset at all if he decided to book and move to Dallas. He has every reason in the book to stay or leave NOLA. He really has nothing left to prove there. As great as Brees is he is not the same without SP, his mentor and his close friend.

If Payton left the Saints would be OK because Gruden or someone would step in. But I don't think SP wants to go anywhere without Loomis. It was him and SP that brought in Brees.

But JJ needs to bite his tongue and just sign checks.

I would be proud of SP if he went to Dallas and resurrected that franchise.

He and the rest of the Saints got a raw deal over this alleged fictionary bounty crap. A ploy designed by Goodell to save his butt over the plethora of upcoming concussion lawsuits. It's all a sham and the Saints were scapegoats. Tom Benson is not the confrontational type and the NFL knows that, hence why the Saints got punished for something that has gone on since the dawn of football and goes on to this day.

I could see him leaving for a fresh start but who knows.
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So when Payton comes here and brings his fancy WCO hybrid offense and Romo gets knocked of the game because the OL sucks what then?

Next HC up?


I don't see a lot of difference in their offenses. I think the general differences are mainly personnel.
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Jason Garrett is too much of an egoist to admit that his system sucks and isnt working.
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??? Maybe this is what he's talking about...

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowbo...und-head-coach

This doesn't say anything to me though. If anything, just Jerry saying 'he needs an OC but he doesn't need one'
That's what I was referring too. It just seems Jerry is willing to find anyway possible to keep Jason as head coach.

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No. And Payton isn't coming here anyway but if in your fantasy land, we take in the entire Saints front office, then have at it
Might be easier to switch allegiance to the Saints
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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter NFL and Sean Payton’s agent Don Yee are finalizing conditions under which suspended Saints HC can negotiate a contract extension with NO.



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Once NFL and Don Yee agree to conditions, Saints and Payton are expected to commence discussions about contract extension, per NFL source.
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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter NFL and Sean Payton’s agent Don Yee are finalizing conditions under which suspended Saints HC can negotiate a contract extension with NO.



Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Once NFL and Don Yee agree to conditions, Saints and Payton are expected to commence discussions about contract extension, per NFL source.
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Is there any chance we could get the Saints GM as well?

I know he won't have that title here but it's time for Jerry to open up his pocket books and pay a guy like him to accept whatever downgraded title he were to receive to do the GM job here.


It seems like Payton doesn't really want to coach a team without that guy if he were to put the clause in his contract.


The salary cap may hurt Jerry as far as getting players but there is no excuse anymore to not have a top NFL coach with surrounding staff and scouting.

You have tried it your way Jerry and it just doesn't work. Spend the money, win, and you'll get it all back.
Come on, man...there's no way Jerry cedes any power like that. I think you're half joking, but there's alot of folks that keep beating that drum that actually think (or hope) it'll happen. Need to get past that conversation...wasting breath.
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